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Hi, I have a question does any one know where I can get front and rear strut bars?? for my mkII. I know where to find swaybars but I was wondering what about strut bars? are those any better? or would having both strut and sway bars be good? I need good handeling for auto x
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When I used to own my MKII... I searched numerous times and I found one style for the front on ebay... none for the rear. I too, came to a dead end.
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yeah I looked on ebay too, but didn't find much at all, there is plenty for mkIV but not for the mkII. How did yours work for you? any good? I expecially wanted the rear one because I bought a racing seat and I was going to connect the seat belt to that.
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it was crap. the weld on it looked home made and it doesn't just run from the left strut mount to the right mount. It runs across and then to the rear panel (the panel behind the engine) You have to drill two holes on the panel to bolt the strut bar in place. None for the rear. Parts for the MKII are very hard to come by due to its unpopularity and short on demands. I'm sure you'll be find without the strut bars.
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well that sucks they didn't make more things for these cars, but I was thinking about this the other day and I have a question maybe you or any one else can answer.... Ok how come the mkII are not as popular? they are about 500 pounds lighter then the mkIII and even more from the mkIv. Yes they don't have as much horse power but I think they make it up in the sence that they are lighter, and If you was to put a 7mgte or another motor from another supra, I am sure the mkII would spank another supra with the same motor and mods, simply because it's lighter. What do you think? I want to build my mkII because I like it and again it's lighter, even though I do like the mkIII body or even better the mkIV but to own a mkIV it takes lots of money. So another question is In your opinion, am I a wasting my time by trying to build my mkII? should I just sell it and be like every one else and buy my self a mkIII ?? I know it's alot of questions but they have been running through my mind for months and any input you have I will gladly take into consideration. Thanks
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sorry for the late reply but before I start out you can check out this web site. http://www.freewebs.com/tanyasmkii/othermkiisupras.htm Now look at the second lower picture with the over size Spearco intercooler. That is Russ Matusuvich's 9 second drag supra. That is supra is powered by a 5MGTE. Yes! It's true! A 5MGTE! You're right, the MKII would be a very quick supra with a swap... either it be the 7M,1J, or whatever you can fit in it. And yes it would make it a very fast supra.
NOw, I would had kept my supra if I didn't move out of state. I had at that time my wifes Mazda 626 (P.O.S.) my MKII & MKIII turbo. One of my friend wanted the MKII bad! I can only take 2 car so I decided to sell my beloved MKII. Turbo TT, you're not wasting your time at all. You can make Massive power if you put a turbo kit on your 5MGE. If you decide to tune up a N/A 5M it will never match up to a turbo. Or you can get a 6MGE (190hp) and turbocharge it. It'll make even more power. And of course, the populare swap would be the 7MGTE and I've seen quite a few MKII w/7MGTE swap and man it is aggressive. Although I own a MKIII I would love to get another MKII. You can get a MKIII but remember, that car is a freaken elephant! You really need to gut that car good to get it going. IR |
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wow!!! thanks you honestly made me believe in my mkII, ok so here is my next question, should I..... 1. turbo my 5mge 2. buy a 6mge and turbo it
3. buy a 7mgte or 1jzgte ( but I think that will cost to much since I would need ecu tranny and the whole deal) before you give me your opinion I will tell you exactly what my goal is for this car.... My goal is to make this a fast car, how fast you might ask, well hoping to build it to be around 12 second 1/4 mile, and I want the cheapest route I can find to get there. I know if I go with the 1j I will make a whole lot more power then If I just stick with my 5m and turbo it but like I said I dont want to spend a fortune. I plan to build it with in the next 2 years and I probably would like to spend around 4-5 k |
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I know that with 4-5k I wont get to 12 sec but I do wonder what I will get with 4-5k into my mkII
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Ok, you have great ambition and I admire it.
1st of if you do plan on doing a 7MGTE swap then you'll need a complete donor to do it right. You'll need almost everything from that MKIII. Now if you want the 1JZGTTE then you'll need a complete front clip to do it right. The wiring on both the swap are the hard part. You need to convert the OBD and that would take extra time. You'll have to price around for a front clip 1J because they are expensive. The MKIII donor, depend which route you decide to go. You'll need everything fron engine to tranny to wire. I'm not sure about this but I had read before that you can or might be able to use the MKIII's differential (LSD) on the MKII. *You'll need LSD* If you want to turbo your 5MGE it would be easier then the swap and would produce almost as much as the MKIII. Did I mentioned the valve on the 5M is bigger and its real good for force induction. You can also get the 6MGE and turbo it as well. It does have more HP then the 5MGE and well produce real good power. The 6M is a 3.0 liter and in japan its rated 200 hp and offers a better torque band then the 5MGE. It also uses the 7MGE crankshaft. Depend on how you tune your supra and invest in it will determine how fast your supra is. I hope these info will be useful to you. IR |
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ok so since you say that turboing my 5mge will be easier than to do a swap, I might just do that since it will produce about the same amount of power. like I said in the other topic some one has a 89 turbo automatic, so I might just buy that one and just use the parts that I would need in order to turbo the 5m, The guy is asking $1500 but seams to not want the car aroung anymore so I think I can get it for $1000 maybe less if I talk him into it
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well, I guess its ok... It is a little too much but if anything everything you need will be there. But before you slap on the turbo you might want to rebuild your over mileage engine. It will help a lot. You don't need to buy another turbo if you're getting a complete MKIII for parts. Here is a web site you can check out regarding a rebuild and a upgrade.
http://www.mdcmotorsports.com/mdc%20front%20page.htm Now remember what I said before, this place here sends your turbo to suprasport.com and they're actually the one that does it all. Suprasport is located in Minesota. |
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well today I talked to the guy a bit and ill probably get it for $1000 (maybe) would $1000 for that be good? and yeah I do plan to run my motor a bit more probably untill september then take it all apart and rebuild it, port the head and do a 3 angle valve job, should I do anything else while I have the motor apart??? I an if I get the car I would send the turbo to get rebuilt while I am doing everything else. Also you said I could probably only run about 6psi when I put the turbo on, but what would I need to do in order to turn up the boost a bit more?? I would put the mkIII injectors in my mkII since they are bigger. What about the intercooler? will that hold me back? cause if it does then I would much rather spend the money and buy a big front mount intercooler.
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Well, $1000 does seem a little high but I guess it's ok. Because everything that you need would be there. When you take your head in to get it rebuild make sure you take it to a shop that is very good with the 5MGE or is aware of that engine. You might as well rebuild your block too. Get your crankshaft clean and inspect for any ware. If you do invest in a lighter flywheel before you put your engine together it would be nice to get your block turn and balance. You can get a better clutch while you're at it. *Believe me your stock won't last long after the turbo is on* When you are cranking up your boost make sure you boost safely. that way you don't cook your pistons. Make sure your car doesn't run lean while tunning it. To crank up the boost you have many options to do so. You can run a piggy back system which allows you to modified from air to fuel. It intercepts engine signals from the ECU to allow tuning of your engine from a laptop or pc. If you're good then go for it if not take it to a professional you can trust on tunning your MKII. It needs to be dyno tune for street or track use. OR you can go E-management which can do almost everything and better then a piggy back. Also it would eliminate your MAF sensor. You can run open turbo. But 6psi would be a safe mode for your MKII with stock internal. But you can crank it up but at your own risk... You can use the MKIII intercooler but if you do decide to go after market then you can. You can get a Spearco replica for the mkIII from http://www.driftmotion.com/
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ok sound good, I know it will be a guess but after me rebuilting my engine and doing everything we just talked about and boosting 6psi around how much horse power do you think that Ill be putting out?
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with 6psi You can produce almost as much HP and torque like the MKIII. I can't give you any numbers for I never had the chance to dyno my supra. It'll depend on how well your car is set up and tunning wise.
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OK sounds good thanks
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where can I find struts?? strut or sway bars?? what's better?
