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Hey does anyone know the difference's in 0-60 performance between a auto tt supra and a 6speed supra. It would probly be in your owners manuals, thanks alot guys.
 
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No it's wont be in the owners manual because the Stick cost more and we all know that the auto is definetly faster than a 6speed big grin Toyota would have been dumb to post it wink


95 Supra TT
Wood Grain Dash...Yeah I know:rolleyes:
Still..it's Better than STOCK!!
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say what you will, the auto's may be faster. but shifting with the stick connects you to the car, your doing more than flooring it and navigating the turns. just my opinion, if you are about drag racing the auto is the way to go
 
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No it's wont be in the owners manual because the Stick cost more and we all know that the auto is definetly faster than a 6speed big grin Toyota would have been dumb to post it wink


Well I beg to differ.....given the right driver...and knowing how to launch the car is a huge difference....I'd like to see a stock AUTO TT run a 13.0@108 bone stock...it's all about the driver...and yes...ROAD RACING RULES hahaha
 
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No it's wont be in the owners manual because the Stick cost more and we all know that the auto is definetly faster than a 6speed big grin Toyota would have been dumb to post it wink


Well I beg to differ.....given the right driver...and knowing how to launch the car is a huge difference....I'd like to see a stock AUTO TT run a 13.0@108 bone stock...it's all about the driver...and yes...ROAD RACING RULES hahaha
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No it's wont be in the owners manual because the Stick cost more and we all know that the auto is definetly faster than a 6speed big grin Toyota would have been dumb to post it wink


Well I beg to differ.....given the right driver...and knowing how to launch the car is a huge difference....I'd like to see a stock AUTO TT run a 13.0@108 bone stock...it's all about the driver...and yes...ROAD RACING RULES hahaha


FWIW, my old '97 auto ran a 12.8 @ 114mph with just the FFCD and VSV mod (which cost $0). It also dyno'd 371rwhp.

-m

Marcus Frost

'93 Lexus SC300 5-Speed
'98 Supra Turbo 6-Speed
 
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M. frost what exactly is the VSV mod????
12.8 with zero cost eek eek
let us in on the secret
 
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M. frost what exactly is the VSV mod????
12.8 with zero cost eek eek
let us in on the secret


http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/vsv/vsv.htm

My car was also extremely low mileage at the time (11,xxx) so everything was in tip top shape. It had been maintained very well and I also attribute that to it's strong performance.

That, and well, the Supra and 2JZGTE are just amazing pieces of engineering.

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Marcus Frost

'93 Lexus SC300 5-Speed
'98 Supra Turbo 6-Speed
 
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Does anyone know the actual 0-60 times of a stock tt auto and a stick?
 
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Is anyone going to actually tell this guy that an Automatic is better to build boost on the line?

Things to do to build boost on the line in an Automatic is:

1) Buy a Tranny Cooler
2) On the line keep your tranny in drive, (not OD or 4th because it reduces line pressure in the tranny)
3) Stand on the brake pedal with your left foot (Reason why you needed to buy a tranny cooler or you overheat your tranmission here)
4) With right foot, press accelerator so that it brings up engine speed against resistance of the torque converter
5) When you hit stall speed of the torque converter it is when you are ready to launch. (NOTE: the engine may push through the brakes and the car will creep foward)
6) When it is time to launch, sidestep brake and then pedal to the metal.

If you follow these steps then you will be able to build boost while on the line before a launch. I have never tried this in a Supra, so I do not know if the Supra's engine will let you rev to the point of the stall speed. The WRX's work fine with this. All my Supras are manumatic, reason why I never tried it. Remember not to brake torque the engine for more than 8 seconds at a time or you will overheat the transmission.

Even though you have the advantage on the line than a Manumatic car with the exact same modifications as you, you may still run slower times due to the gear ratios of an automatic transmission. If you have run on the strip before, try this method and I bet you will cut your 60' times right down.

-Martin.

[Modified] - 92 Black MKIII TT Supra
[Stock] - 89 Harliquin Black/Crimson MKIII T Supra. (Project but now for sale/trade).
 
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I'd like to see a stock 6-speed run a 13.0.

"Seeing is believing". Got a video?

Are you being loose with the word "stock" or what?

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Originally posted by SDSupraTT:
No it's wont be in the owners manual because the Stick cost more and we all know that the auto is definetly faster than a 6speed big grin Toyota would have been dumb to post it wink


Well I beg to differ.....given the right driver...and knowing how to launch the car is a huge difference....I'd like to see a stock AUTO TT run a 13.0@108 bone stock...it's all about the driver...and yes...ROAD RACING RULES hahaha


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...Manual transmission have always had the advatage upon road racing. Drag racing...well...maybe the automatics have the advantage because the throttle is constantly open.



http://www.supra-sport.com

'90 N/A w/ mods
 
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the throttle is always open when i race too wink and my car's a stick too big grin

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Turbos and Automatics go hand in hand, reason why if you know what you are doing you get a much better launch.

Once you are moving though, the manuals usually come back due to the gearing of the transmission.

No one in the world can shift faster than an automatic transmission no matter how good they are so if the gearing and the amount of gears available were the same then an automantic will surely win.

-Martin.

[Modified] - 92 Black MKIII TT Supra
[Stock] - 89 Harliquin Black/Crimson MKIII T Supra. (Project but now for sale/trade).
 
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that was about a year ago man, too long ago... I probably did have a slip lying around but I dont' know where...my car isn't stock anymore...sorry no video for that...so if you want to say it didn't happen be my guest...but yes the only thing that wasn't stock on the car was the tires haha so yeah...I'd say that's BONE STOCK

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So another words your saying you were using DR's? Shit I can run a 13 too with DR!


95 Supra TT
Wood Grain Dash...Yeah I know:rolleyes:
Still..it's Better than STOCK!!
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yeah I believe the automatic can be faster than a 6-speed in a sprint race with the same mods, but not on the high-end. That's when the 6-speed excels! smile

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Turbos and Automatics go hand in hand, reason why if you know what you are doing you get a much better launch.

Once you are moving though, the manuals usually come back due to the gearing of the transmission.

No one in the world can shift faster than an automatic transmission no matter how good they are so if the gearing and the amount of gears available were the same then an automantic will surely win.

-Martin.

[Modified] - 92 Black MKIII TT Supra
[Stock] - 89 Harliquin Black/Crimson MKIII T Supra. (Project but now for sale/trade).


BMW's new SMG manual transmission can shift in 110 milliseconds, and the s2000R SMA transmission can do shifts in 335 milliseconds. manuals are catching up
 
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BMW's new SMG manual transmission can shift in 110 milliseconds, and the s2000R SMA transmission can do shifts in 335 milliseconds. manuals are catching up


Heh, 110ms, reckon you can shift in that time? even though that is fast for the manual it depends on the driver. It is still too fast to react in that time in a normal gearbox. Try this, get a stop watch and try to get around 110ms on it. I will tell you now that you will only be able to do it a handful of time, now think about the clutch and shifting (even short shifters) and the time it takes to shift. I believe around 350-400ms is already quick for shifts.

-Martin.

[Modified] - 92 Black MKIII TT Supra
[Stock] - 89 Harliquin Black/Crimson MKIII T Supra. (Project but now for sale/trade).
 
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actually no not on drag radials....they were on Toyo Prox so no not on DRs

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