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Price is decent considering it comes with a new flywheel. However the vendors I've spoken to, while they can get it easily enough, have NEVER sold a single one. They have NO idea how well it will work Frown Exedy is apparently popular overseas but I have ZERO idea how well this clutch would work in a daily driven single turbo Supra. With two plates it ought to have a light pedal but I'd liek to know how well it will wear and if it will chatter or be too grabby to drive on. The fact that it's purple doesn't mean sh1t to me Roll Eyes

My current clutch works but sux so I'd liek to find something decent. The RPS Carbon Carbon is BUX so no way am I going to do that. The HPF clutch with a PP and RPS flywheel is a possible alternative if I cannot find out anything about the damned Exedy... Anyone?

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Exedy has been around for a long time and its OEM to many manufacturers so I think they shouldn be that bad. As for multiplate clutch design, you will hear some chatter.
 
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Anybody?...I'm will like to know also.

BLKMGK: I may have a possible good source for this clutch. If you are interested let me know.

Raul
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Well, have been given some good info offline. If the price is right I'm going to go for it, if you've got a good source I'm all ears. I'm waiting to hear from one shop I trust on a price but if worse comes to worse I'll go with my usual - horsepowerfreaks.com although come to think of it I owe it to Mark to check his site\prices too!

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Exedy was building the Ogura multi-plate clutches in Japan and has been mentioned has been building OEM clutches in Japan for many years.

They have a quad disk clutch in Japan for both the Supra and the Skyline. I sold a few Ogura clutches a couple years ago and the customers reported that everything went well. Ease of slipping and solid 600hp handling (at the time that was a good running car).

Most people never bought them because there was no support network, but now that they are aggressively marketing the product we shall see.

The big advantage is huge production capability in Japan and the interest to penetrate this market.

For Blkmagic man.....I would sell an Exedy clutch below anyone in the world, just to say I sold you something!! LOL

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Doh! Saw this after I spoke with someone about ordering it up - $1280 or so. Next time perhaps? Tein HAs are on my list and one of my last upgrades. How did I get to be so desireable anyway? Wink I had checked your WEB site and not seen it although I did see some clutches there I'd seen nowhere else.

I'll be sure to let everyone know how this clutch works out one way or the other. I've heard lots of folks asking about it but few who could say they had used it. I did manage to speak to someone who has worked with it and gave it high marks. This is for a daily driver single car so we'll see. For those considering this be aware there are multiple twin disk clutches from Exedy for the Supra - I bought the one that's mean tto be streetable but there's also one that's even lighter for road racing and another for drag (might be 3 the disk).

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My friend is a master distributor in California and he says its easy to drive on. Got it in his supra mk4. When my OS Giken wears down, ill give it a try.
 
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Mark, sounds like you need to put this puppy on your WEB site for sale Smile Will give the gory details on mine ASAP, new flywheel bolts, TOB, PP bolts, and snap rings are coming with it. May not need all of that but I want to be sure and will report on what was and wasn't needed - some of those bolts are like $8 apiece and may not have to be purchased...

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We are always interested in real life experience with products. Many times our customers try something before we ever do, so I am open to product reviews.

In fact, I write most of my product descriptions on SupraStore.com, but if you want to write a few (use lots of adjectives and tell stories when you write them) for us, I would give you credit. You know well over a Million people a month read SupraStore.com just to see what we have to say? Yep, it is true true true........

In fact, you have inspired me with a great new idea!! "The SupraStore.com Invited Guest Product Review"

Please hurry and submit your first product review on anything you have in your car and we will get it on the site and might even give you our trademarked BPU T-Shirt plus your name in lights as a reward Wink

Hurry, the world is waiting !!!

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Mark, sounds like you need to put this puppy on your WEB site for sale Smile Will give the gory details on mine ASAP, new flywheel bolts, TOB, PP bolts, and snap rings are coming with it. May not need all of that but I want to be sure and will report on what was and wasn't needed - some of those bolts are like $8 apiece and may not have to be purchased...

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any news on this? i am curious on the write-up

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Doh! Forgot I had posted here about it..

Okay - the clutch is installed and I've driven it a bit, I have NOT raced it at the track though. What follows is all based on street driving Smile

1st - OEM flywheel bolts won't work with this sucker. My installer used some shorter ones that were hardened to install it. If you're going to use this dual disk get the right bolts first! Install directions are Kanji only - someone needs to translate them and post them to the WEB (ahem). My installer had no issues, the clutch comes assembled.

2nd - VERY light! OEM flywheel alone is 34lbs, my entire clutch assembly AND flywheel is now 31lbs Big Grin I have saved probably 8lbs or more of rotating mass.

3rd - Pedal pressure is LIGHT! What a freaking relief Eek Previous 6puck POS ate into the OEM flywheel enough that it was hittin gthe flywheel bolts - not good. This one can be driven on all day long with NO issues in bumper to bumper traffic, very nice.

4th - Engagement is a little tricky. Since it's lighter it doesn't have the same inertia so it can stall more easily. It can chatter a little but this one is still new and it does NOT chatter in between gear changes like my old one did. It CAN be slipped if you're careful and don't just dump the clutch - it takes getting used to but overall I do NOT regret getting it.

5th - some downsides... Like all light flywheels this one rattles at idle with the clutch out. Yup, it does indeed sound like a diesal truck somewhat. It will also rattle some with the clutch in due to the disks and floater moving around in there. On a downshift you can also hear them rattle and a high RPM upshift can also sound funky as you shove the clutch down. Engine braking is much reduced but the car revs MUCH more freely.

Overall feel to me is that the car is lighter, more "frisky". I've now lived with this daily for about two weeks and it's not bad at all - much preferred over a heavier single disk solution I think. When comparing costs this clutch was pretty affordable compared to going with the other single disks out there - especially knowing the flywheel was shot and had to be replaced. I hope this puppy lasts awhile!

I'd certainly do it again - maybe even a three disk! Cool

P.S. Where do I get my T-shirt? Mark, feel free to reproduce this elsewhere - IMO it's a good clutch solution and will hold my T-78 just fine.

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Really interesting, thanks for the review!!

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Price is decent considering it comes with a new flywheel. However the vendors I've spoken to, while they can get it easily enough, have NEVER sold a single one. They have NO idea how well it will work Frown Exedy is apparently popular overseas but I have ZERO idea how well this clutch would work in a daily driven single turbo Supra. With two plates it ought to have a light pedal but I'd liek to know how well it will wear and if it will chatter or be too grabby to drive on. The fact that it's purple doesn't mean sh1t to me Roll Eyes

My current clutch works but sux so I'd liek to find something decent. The RPS Carbon Carbon is BUX so no way am I going to do that. The HPF clutch with a PP and RPS flywheel is a possible alternative if I cannot find out anything about the damned Exedy... Anyone?

1995 Supra TT, T-78, FMIC, AEM ECU tuned by ME Smile

I was told this is the TRD twin disk clutch? If so quite a few people have used it.
Exedy makes them for TRD.....
Be nice to know if this is so it's cheaper than the TRD.
 
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Yes, Exedy makes the TRP twinplate clutch. I am told this is NOT the same clutch.

Maybe a thousand miles on this one so far - no complaints and no slippage but it's not yet been to th etrack or put down more than 600RWHP - soon!

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A bone stock factory clutch will hold 600rwhp for a bit too, especially if it is never slipped hard. The real test of a clutch is a thorough session of thrasing with sticky tires and slipping the clutch out of the hole and then banging every gear.

Otherwise, the only benefit one receives from a clutch review is HOW IT FEELS, which don't get me wrong is great, but it has nothing to do with how much power the clutch can hold in all conditions.

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I've not yet taken this clutch to the track myself but have two dates coming up and hope to make both of them on ET Streets. Currently it's daily driven at around the 500-560RWHP mark in moderate to heavy traffic - no problems so far.

That said I've spoken to someone who HAS driven this clutch on the track and reported good results. We'll see if I find the same. My review mostly centered around clutch feel because frankly that's pretty important and when I was looking for a clutch NO ONE could tell me squat about this one - I took a chance. So far I have no regrets, if I have them anytime soon I'll post them. I cannot speak about much more than my own experiences though <shrug>

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BlkMGk, didn't the cluctch come with the flywheel bolts? If not what exact size is required and from where can I get it?
Thanks

edit:this is for the twin disc! Also is 1200 a good price?

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Flywheel bolts were NOT included with the clutch. I don't know what size they were but the stock Toyota bolts did NOT fit - they were apparently too long. Other flywheels also have this problem I'm told but I don't know what others are doing about it.

$1200 sounds like a reasonable cost.

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Flywheel bolts were NOT included with the clutch. I don't know what size they were but the stock Toyota bolts did NOT fit - they were apparently too long. Other flywheels also have this problem I'm told but I don't know what others are doing about it.

$1200 sounds like a reasonable cost.

1995 Supra TT, T-78, FMIC, AEM ECU tuned by ME Smile


I'm currently deciding whether to go for an Exedy twin plate or an OS Giken twin plate.

Exedy don't seem to list the torque rating on the twin plate - or atleast the information I've managed to find hasn't.

Did the documentation you received come with any more in depth specs on this clutch?

If so, any chance of sharing some of that information? Smile

Cheers

Jon
 
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ROTFL - ALL of the instructions and specs were in Japanese\Kanji. I have not a clue as to what they said. My mechanic had no issues as he's done a couple of other twin plates. Hrm, did I forget to mention the lack of good directions? I should have as if I'd been doing it I'd have been pretty frustrated. It did come pretty much assembled as a single unit though.

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